Category: pidgins and creoles

Episode 303: Creoles 2 (featuring John McWhorter, Knut Olawsky, & Ji-Soo Kweon)

We’re continuing our discussion of a controversial paper about how new languages get started.

When you start talking about creole languages, the linguistic becomes the political very quickly. So what are linguists saying about this work? And is there anything creoles have in common?

We take it up with linguist John McWhorter on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Show notes

Indigenous dictionary may save the Miriwoong language from extinction
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-07/dictionary-saves-miriwoong-language-from-extinction/8877624

Mirima Dawang Woorlab-gerring: ‘Mirima Place for Talking’
http://mirima.org.au

Miriwoong on the App Store
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/miriwoong/id994029653?mt=8

John McWhorter: LECTURE ONE: ARE CREOLES NOTHING BUT HYBRIDS?

John McWhorter: LECTURE TWO: HAS IT BEEN SHOWN THAT CREOLIZATION DOESN’T YIELD A TYPE OF GRAMMAR?

John McWhorter: LESSON THREE: DOES GENERATIVE SYNTAX REFUTE CREOLE EXCEPTIONALIST CLAIMS?

Lexicon Valley: From Pidgins to Creoles
http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/lexicon_valley/2017/09/john_mcwhorter_on_the_process_by_which_creole_languages_are_born.html

Performative allyship
https://www.facebook.com/YFNSJW/posts/1995533293999768

That meme (which I got a little bit wrong)

How The Women On Obama’s Staff Made Sure Their Voices Were Heard
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/how-the-women-on-obamas-staff-made-sure-their-voices-were-heard_us_57d94d9fe4b0aa4b722d79fe

Lingthusiasm Episode 11: Layers of meaning – Cooperation, humour, and Gricean Maxims
http://lingthusiasm.com/post/164303700686/lingthusiasm-episode-11-layers-of-meaning


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Episode 302: Creoles 1 (featuring Damián Blasi)

How do Creole languages arise?

A controversial new paper is rocking the linguistic world. Are Creole languages different from other languages? How do they start? And what does this all mean about the human language ability?

Daniel Midgley speaks with author Damián Blasi on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Show notes

The Closing of a Great American Dialect Project
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-closing-of-a-great-american-dialect-project

Fieldwork Recordings—Dictionary Of American Regional English
https://uwdc.library.wisc.edu/collections/amerlangs/

Dictionary of Regional American English
http://dare.wisc.edu

Arthur the Rat
http://dare.wisc.edu/audio/arthur-the-rat

Browse 100 Sample Entries
https://www.daredictionary.com/page/100sampleentries

Humans learn complex grammatical patterns even in extremely challenging circumstances
https://phys.org/news/2017-09-humans-complex-grammatical-patterns-extremely.html

Grammatical patterns survive extreme social upheaval, study shows
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/09/05/Grammatical-patterns-survive-extreme-social-upheaval-study-shows/1281504626189/

Blasi et al.: Grammars are robustly transmitted even during the emergence of creole languages
Read-only link

Language Log: No creoles?
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=34340

New way don dey to prevent HIV
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-41364083

Kim’s Rejoinder to Trump’s Rocket Man: ‘Mentally Deranged U.S. Dotard’
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/world/asia/kim-trump-rocketman-dotard.html

Kim Jong-un Called Trump a ‘Dotard.’ What Does That Even Mean?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/world/asia/trump-north-korea-dotard.html

Kim Jong-Un Calling Trump A ‘Dotard’ Gave The Internet A Language Lesson
https://www.wired.com/story/kim-jong-un-trump-dotard/

Kim Jong Un just called Trump a ‘dotard’ — here’s what that means
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what-does-dotard-mean-2017-9?r=US&IR=T

Where is ‘Nambia’? President Trump ‘invents’ African country
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-41345577

Trump Names Sarah Palin Ambassador to Nambia
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-names-sarah-palin-ambassador-to-nambia

Nambian covfefe
https://www.facebook.com/rtrfmtalkthetalk/posts/1917185944974855

#TakeAKnee: 5 Things To Know About NFL Players Protesting At Football Games
http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/09/23/what-is-take-a-knee-facts-nfl-players-protest-national-anthem/

Stevie Wonder joins #takeaknee protest against Trump’s attack on NFL players
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/sep/24/stevie-wonder-joins-takeaknee-protest-against-trumps-attack-on-nfl-players

John Legend, Diddy, Ed Asner, more react to Donald Trump’s attack on NFL player protests
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/09/23/hollywood-takes-knee-best-reaction-donald-trumps-attack-nfl-player-protests/696666001/

Flipping the North Koreans off
https://iconicphotos.org/2010/10/01/flipping-the-north-koreans-off/

Korean is virtually two languages, and that’s a big problem for North Korean defectors
https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-05-19/korean-today-virtually-two-languages-and-thats-problem-north-korean-defectors

Wikipedia: North–South differences in the Korean language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North–South_differences_in_the_Korean_language


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