We’re continuing our discussion of a controversial paper about how new languages get started.

When you start talking about creole languages, the linguistic becomes the political very quickly. So what are linguists saying about this work? And is there anything creoles have in common?

We take it up with linguist John McWhorter on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Creoles 2 (featuring John McWhorter, Knut Olawsky, & Ji-Soo Kweon) | Talk the Talk, episode 303

Promo

Promo with Kylie Sturgess, 2017-10-03: Papyrus

Kylie and  Daniel chat ahead of the show about creole languages. Also, Kylie calls Daniel’s design sense into question when he turns the Talk the Talk logo font to Papyrus.

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Full interview

Interview with John McWhorter, 2017-09-08 (complete)

John McWhorter speaks with Daniel about pidgins, creoles, the Nature paper, and how he’ll be promoting his ideas in future.

Also at https://www.patreon.com/posts/interview-with-14814309


Video: Cutting Room Floor

Cutting Room Floor 302, 303

Daniel and Ben have a Kermit-off.

Is Wikipedia bad?

Daniel didn’t get the name of Lexicon Valley.

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Show notes

Indigenous dictionary may save the Miriwoong language from extinction
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-07/dictionary-saves-miriwoong-language-from-extinction/8877624

Mirima Dawang Woorlab-gerring: ‘Mirima Place for Talking’
http://mirima.org.au

Miriwoong on the App Store
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/miriwoong/id994029653?mt=8

John McWhorter: LECTURE ONE: ARE CREOLES NOTHING BUT HYBRIDS?

John McWhorter: LECTURE TWO: HAS IT BEEN SHOWN THAT CREOLIZATION DOESN’T YIELD A TYPE OF GRAMMAR?

John McWhorter: LESSON THREE: DOES GENERATIVE SYNTAX REFUTE CREOLE EXCEPTIONALIST CLAIMS?

Lexicon Valley: From Pidgins to Creoles
http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/lexicon_valley/2017/09/john_mcwhorter_on_the_process_by_which_creole_languages_are_born.html

“Roses are red
Gender is performative
Mass-market romance
Is heteronormative”
@sfgnyc#AcademicValentines

— Shit Academics Say (@AcademicsSay) February 10, 2016

Performative allyship
https://www.facebook.com/YFNSJW/posts/1995533293999768

That meme (which I got a little bit wrong)

My friends coined a word: hepeated. For when a woman suggests an idea and it’s ignored, but then a guy says same thing and everyone loves it

— Nicole Gugliucci (@NoisyAstronomer) 22 September 2017

How The Women On Obama’s Staff Made Sure Their Voices Were Heard
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/how-the-women-on-obamas-staff-made-sure-their-voices-were-heard_us_57d94d9fe4b0aa4b722d79fe

Lingthusiasm Episode 11: Layers of meaning – Cooperation, humour, and Gricean Maxims
http://lingthusiasm.com/post/164303700686/lingthusiasm-episode-11-layers-of-meaning


Image credit: https://www.shh.mpg.de/608548/creole-languages


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