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Episode 300: Is Grammar Elitist?

Does grammar matter?

On one side: the language sticklers, who hold that good grammar is a necessity for communication, and even a matter of upholding standards and courtesy. But there’s another side: that grammar rules are often just made up, designed to reinforce social barriers, and that an insistence on good grammar is a form of elitism and snobbery. Which view is supported by the facts?

Kylie, Ben, and Daniel are watching their words on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Voynich manuscript: the solution
https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/voynich-manuscript-solution/

Sravana Reddy and Kevin Knight: What We Know About the Voynich Manuscript (PDF)
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Esravana/slides/voynich_latex_slides.pdf

Indecipherable Voynich Manuscript Finally Decoded After a Century
https://www.inverse.com/article/36271-voynich-manuscript-decoded

The mysterious Voynich manuscript has finally been decoded [UPDATED]
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/the-mysterious-voynich-manuscript-has-finally-been-decoded/

So much for that Voynich manuscript “solution”
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/experts-are-extremely-dubious-about-the-voynich-solution/

‘Devil’s letter’ written by 17th century possessed nun finally decoded thanks to dark web code
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/devils-letter-written-by-17th-century-possessed-nun-finally-decoded-thanks-dark-web-code-1638490

So Trump Makes Spelling Errors. In the Twitter Age, Whoo Doesn’t?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/technology/donald-trump-twitter-spelling.html?_r=0

Why Kids Can’t Write
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/education/edlife/writing-education-grammar-students-children.html

No, Insisting on Proper English Grammar and Spelling Is Not ‘Elitist’
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451030/proper-english-grammar-spelling-are-not-elitist

It’s Finally Time To Stop Correcting People’s Grammar, Linguist Says
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/accidence-will-happen-oliver-kamm-interview_us_576ae249e4b09926ce5d718e

Online Etymology Dictionary: typhoon
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=typhoon

The Word “Typhoon.” Its History and Origin. (1880)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1798728?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Wiktionary: tornado (etymology)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tornado#Etymology

Willy-Willy, Dust Devil or Cockeyed Bob?
https://pwlinfo.wordpress.com/2013/11/20/willy-willy-dust-devil-or-cockeyed-bob/

Bob Dixon: Australian Aboriginal words in English: their origin and meaning
Google Books link

Downburst Causes Damage, Closes Key U.S. Border Bridge in Laredo, Texas
https://weather.com/news/news/world-trade-bridge-downburst-damage-laredo-texas

WATCH: A “Rain Bomb” Drops on Queensland, Australia
http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-a-rain-bomb-drops-on-queensland-australia


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Episode 292: Mailbag of Destiny

We love taking questions, and for this episode, we’ve got a lot of them.

What’s behind the things we say, and why is language the way it is? Is calling someone a drop-kick secretly obscene? Why does Germany have so many names? And why are there italics?

Daniel, Ben, and Kylie will answer these and so many more on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Andrzej M. Łęcki: Grammaticalisation Paths of Have in English
Google Books link

Mari Johanne Hertzenberg: The Use and Development of Habere + Infinitive in Latin (PDF)
http://www.hf.uio.no/ifikk/english/research/projects/proiel/Activities/proiel/publications/Mari_ICHL.pdf

login the noun v. login the verb

Online Etymology Dictionary: log
http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=log&allowed_in_frame=0

Oxford Dictionaries: Different from, than, or to?
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/different-from-than-or-to

Stack Exchange: Differences between “price point” and “price”
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/11879/differences-between-price-point-and-price

Green’s Dictionary of Slang: dropkick and punt
https://greensdictofslang.com/search/basic?q=dropkick+and+punt

Why Are There Different Names for the Same Country?
http://mentalfloss.com/article/30810/why-are-there-different-names-same-country

Wikipedia: Names of Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Germany

土澳 or TuAo: Is this Chinese popular term for Australia affectionate or condescending?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-07/is-chinese-tuao-for-australia-condescending/8591168

The Visionary Behind Italics
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/03/highlights-of-a-printer-who-invented-italics/386845/

The Origin of Italics
http://www.blakeatwood.com/origin-italics/

The Hidden Language Of The ~Tilde~
https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-hidden-language-of-the-tilde

TypeTalk: Italic vs. Oblique
https://creativepro.com/typetalk-italic-vs-oblique/

Bilinguals find it easier to learn a third language
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110201110915.htm

Can a Second Language Help You Learn a Third?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/life-bilingual/201506/can-second-language-help-you-learn-third

WALS: Number of Cases
http://wals.info/chapter/49

This is the most important moment of the Comey testimony
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/8/15762266/comey-day-hearing-i-took-it-as-direction-risch

The Brussels Binder: Give the Women of Brussels a Voice
https://brusselsbinder.org

Congrats, you have an all male panel!
http://allmalepanels.tumblr.com

The ‘Manels Affliction’ – or those all-male conference panels talking about stuff that affects everyone
http://linkis.com/m.mgafrica.com/artic/hEsFB

Men cite themselves more than women do
http://www.nature.com/news/men-cite-themselves-more-than-women-do-1.20176


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Episode 291: Covfefe

It’s not just about the covfefe.

This week, we are buried under an avalanche of words, and we’re trying to dig ourselves out. Yes, covfefe happened, but Wonder Woman has also given rise to an ascendant gynocracy. And what about that spelling bee?

Daniel, Kylie, and Ben are looking at all the words on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Research shows prejudice, not principle, often underpins ‘free-speech defense’ of racist language
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-05/uok-rsp050317.php

Gretchen McColloch: Herefefe is why it’s toughfefe to say ‘covfefe’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/herefefe-is-why-its-toughfefe-to-say-covfefe/2017/05/31/3f43587e-463b-11e7-bcde-624ad94170ab_story.html

How the hell do you pronounce ‘Covfefe’? Our nation is divided.
http://mashable.com/2017/05/31/how-do-you-pronounce-covfefe/

How Do You Correctly Pronounce “Covfefe”?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/how-do-you-correctly-pronounce-covfefe

How to make covfefe
https://www.facebook.com/smosh/videos/10154578237056765/

Sean Spicer just had the worst possible answer to the “covfefe” question
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/31/politics/sean-spicer-press-conference/index.html

Sean Spicer says ‘covfefe’ wasn’t a typo: Trump knew ‘exactly what he meant’
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/05/31/sean-spicer-says-covfefe-wasnt-typo-trump-knew-exactly-what-he-meant/102355728/

Spicer’s Razor: How the White House press secretary turned “covfefe” into a covfspiracy
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/05/spicers-razor/528750/

Trump fans have convinced themselves ‘covfefe’ was a secret Arabic message against terrorism
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trump-fans-have-convinced-themselves-covfefe-was-a-secret-arabic-message-against-terrorism/

Is ‘Covfefe’ Arabic for ‘I Will Stand Up’? (No.)
http://www.snopes.com/covfefe-arabic-antediluvian/

Levenshtein demo
http://www.let.rug.nl/~kleiweg/lev/

Covfefe, the song
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicalMemes/comments/6ep7o7/covfefe_the_song/
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154649422448581&set=a.45311783580.58844.607633580&type=3&theater

Alamo Drafthouse Apologizes for Starting Manpocalypse With Women-Only Screening
https://medium.com/@BethyBSQU/alamo-drafthouse-apologizes-for-starting-manpocalypse-with-women-only-screening-ccf6f4090a14

“Wonder Woman” Female-Only Screenings Receive Formal Civil Rights Complaint
http://www.teenvogue.com/story/wonder-woman-female-only-premiere-civil-rights-complaint

Two Human Rights Complaints Have Been Filed Over Alamo Drafthouse’s Women-Only ‘Wonder Woman’ Screenings
http://gothamist.com/2017/06/03/wonder_woman_human_rights_complaint.php

National Spelling Bee champ clinches title with ‘marocain’
http://www.kiro7.com/news/national-spelling-bee-champ-clinches-title-with-marocain_/528893154

Guardian: Scripps National Spelling Bee 2017: championship finals – as it happened
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2017/jun/01/scripps-national-spelling-bee-2017-finals-live

Video: Ananya Vinay goes NUTS when she wins the Scripps National Spelling Bee 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2017/jun/02/ananya-vinay-wins-us-scripps-national-spelling-bee-video-report

Scripps Spelling Bee: Take the Test
http://spellingbee.com/take-test

The 35 words you’re (probably) getting wrong
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/05/the-35-words-youre-probably-getting-wrong


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Episode 283: Pun Intended (featuring Janani Krishnan-Jha and Hedvig Skirgård)

Puns. Some people love them, some people hate them.

But why do some people find puns so exasperating? And why do we make them anyway? What’s it like to be on the receiving end of a rapid-fire pun off?

Daniel and Kylie are going against the groan on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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The Great Language Game
https://greatlanguagegame.com

Paper: Why are some languages confused for others? Investigating data from the Great Language Game
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0165934

The great language game: Confusing languages
http://www.replicatedtypo.com/the-great-language-game-confusing-languages/7926.html

Linguistic and cultural knowledge affect whether languages are identified correctly
https://phys.org/news/2017-04-linguistic-cultural-knowledge-affect-languages.html

Linquest
https://www.languageininteraction.nl/lingquest.html

College Humour: Puns Intended
https://www.facebook.com/CollegeHumor/videos/vb.6363207806/10154267590532807/?type=3&theater

O.Henry Pun-Off World Championships
http://punoff.com

Watch Janani in action at the O. Henry Pun-off!

2016 O.Henry Pun-Off World Championships semi-final round (Janani Krishna-Jha vs Jerzy Gwiazdowski

John Pollack: The Pun Also Rises
http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/307465/the-pun-also-rises-by-john-pollack/9781592406753/

Linguistic Anarchy! It’s All Pun And Games Until Somebody Loses a Sign
https://daily.jstor.org/linguistic-anarchy-pun-games-somebody-loses-sign/

What is a pun?
http://www-01.sil.org/linguistics/glossaryoflinguisticterms/whatisapun.htm

Goodreads: Quotes About Puns
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/puns

Monday Punday: A weekly game
http://mondaypunday.com/325

The Greatest Jokes Ever Told
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a35136/greatest-jokes-ever-told/

Tearable Puns
http://www.tearablepuns.org

Why Do Puns Make People Groan?
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/07/why-do-puns-make-people-groan/398252/

Meet the ‘Grammar Vigilante’ of Bristol
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39459831

The ‘Apostrophiser’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08kys4c

Who do you think you’re apostrophising? The dark side of grammar pedantry
https://theconversation.com/who-do-you-think-youre-apostrophising-the-dark-side-of-grammar-pedantry-75793

Are you a friendly language police?
https://educationallinguist.wordpress.com/2016/02/03/are-you-a-friendly-language-police/


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Episode 281: The Emoji Code (featuring Vyvyan Evans)

Why does everyone ❤️ and 😡 emoji?

Emoji have been received enthusiastically in our electronic communication, and yet complaints about them continue. Is there anything wrong with using them? Are they really the equivalent of modern-day hieroglyphics? Do they represent a step backwards?

Daniel and Ben speak with digital communications expert Vyvyan Evans, author of The Emoji Code, on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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AP style change: Singular they is acceptable ‘in limited cases’
https://www.poynter.org/2017/ap-style-change-singular-they-is-acceptable-in-limited-cases/453356/

Question from ACES2015: Is it time to accept ‘they’ as a singular pronoun?
https://www.poynter.org/2015/question-from-aces2015-is-it-time-to-accept-they-as-a-singular-pronoun/330339/

Controversy over emojis used in NAPLAN practice questions
http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/controversy-over-emojis-used-in-naplan-practice-questions/news-story/a05c4fb508d5d7bd54749ef13faa75b2

Emojis in sample NAPLAN test cause alarm amongst educators | Herald Sun
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/emojis-in-sample-naplan-test-cause-alarm-amongst-educators/news-story/367d293fb70e67210474fb153007f708

NAPLAN: using emoji to test English | The Courier-Mail
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/opinion-classic-literary-texts-beats-dumb-txts/news-story/15e9f2f3ba5d7183d0b7164facab2b9e

Professor Vyvyan Evans
http://www.vyvevans.net

Why Millennial Pink Refuses to Go Away
http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/03/why-millennial-pink-refuses-to-go-away.html

The colour I showed Ben

When Did Girls Start Wearing Pink?
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/

The Surprisingly Recent Time Period When Boys Wore Pink, Girls Wore Blue, And Both Wore Dresses
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/10/pink-used-common-color-boys-blue-girls/

Pantone: Introducing Rose Quartz & Serenity
https://www.pantone.com/color-of-the-year-2016

The evolution of Japanese color vocabulary over the past 30 years
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170302090820.htm

The Evolving Poetry Of Japanese Color Names
https://www.asianscientist.com/2017/03/in-the-lab/japan-colors-terms-evolution/

There Is No Word In The English Language For This Gorgeous Color
https://www.good.is/articles/what-color-is-this

xkcd: Color Survey Results
https://blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results/

Emojipedia: Exploding Head
http://emojipedia.org/shocked-face-with-exploding-head/

These Are The 10 Most Popular Emojis Used In 2016
http://www.elle.com.au/news/zeitgeist/2016/12/most-popular-emojis-2016/

Historical Thesaurus of English: Words for underwear
http://historicalthesaurus.arts.gla.ac.uk/category/?id=53582&qsearch=underwear&word=underwear&page=1


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Episode 280: Contractions

They’ll, we’ve, you’re, and even ain’t.

This week, we’re having contractions, but not the muscular kind — the word kind! We squash words together all the time, but why? And how well can you recognise them?

Daniel, Kylie, and Ben are gonna find out on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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The Oxford comma: Do you or don’t you?
http://publishingresourceguide.com/writers-life/writing-ideas-inspiration/oxford-comma-yes-or-no

Oxford commas, Nelson Mandela, and Stephen King
https://stancarey.wordpress.com/2014/09/15/oxford-commas-nelson-mandela-and-stephen-king/

The Best Shots Fired in the Oxford Comma Wars
http://mentalfloss.com/article/33637/best-shots-fired-oxford-comma-wars

An Oxford comma changed this court case completely
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/15/health/oxford-comma-maine-court-case-trnd/index.html

A Missing Oxford Comma Just Changed the Course of a Court Case
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/missing-oxford-comma-just-changed-course-court-case-180962551/

Infographic: The Oxford comma debate
https://www.ragan.com/Main/Articles/Infographic_The_Oxford_comma_debate_52369.aspx

Wikipedia: Contraction (grammar)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraction_(grammar)

Major Trends in Theoretical and Applied Linguistics 1 (increased use of –n’t; interesting charts)
Google Books link

Amn’t
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-amn1.htm

The Story of Ain’t
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=7100#more-7100

The Cockney and His Dialect
https://www.jstor.org/stable/534097?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

London dialect in Dickens
http://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/item126779.html

Online Etymology Dictionary: won’t
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=won%27t

Why Does “Will Not” Become “Won’t”?
http://mentalfloss.com/article/55232/why-does-will-not-become-wont

Online Etymology Dictionary: contraction
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=contraction&searchmode=&p=3&allowed_in_frame=0

Word lengths are optimized for efficient communication
http://www.pnas.org/content/108/9/3526.long

Why “won’t” isn’t “willn’t”
http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/03/wont-willnt.html

Throw Mama From the Train: Favorite Line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c1sgug6prw

(principle of) least effort [Zipf’s Law]
https://www.thoughtco.com/principle-of-least-effort-zipfs-law-1691104

Understanding Zipf’s Law
http://david.pilato.fr/blog/2016/01/05/understanding-zipfs-law/

The mystery of Zipf
https://plus.maths.org/content/mystery-zipf

A mysterious law that predicts the size of the world’s biggest cities
http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-mysterious-law-that-governs-the-size-of-your-city-1479244159

Applying Zipf’s Law to galaxies
https://phys.org/news/2016-04-zipf-law-galaxies.html

Wikipedia: List of placeholder names by language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_placeholder_names_by_language

UD: doovalacky
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doovalacky

MW: doohickey
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doohickey

Chuck Berry, rock ‘n’ roll icon, dead at 90
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-19/chuck-berry-rock-n-roll-icon-dies-aged-90/8367220

How Chuck Berry Wrote “Johnny B. Goode” and Created the First Rock and Roll Guitar Hero
http://www.guitarworld.com/artist-news/how-chuck-berry-wrote-johnny-b-goode-and-created-first-rock-and-roll-guitar-hero/30217

Sister Rosetta Tharpe Biography
http://www.biography.com/people/sister-rosetta-tharpe-17172332

Sister Rosetta Tharpe – Didn’t It Rain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR2gR6SZC2M

Vapour Trails: Revisiting Shoegaze
https://www.xlr8r.com/features/2009/01/vapour-trails-revisiting-shoegaze/

List of rock genres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rock_genres

Music Genres List
http://www.musicgenreslist.com

Our Least Favorite Genre Names
http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2012/01/28/145858309/our-least-favorite-genre-names

Can -core survive normcore?
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2014/04/can-core-survive-normcore/

Slutwave, Tumblr Rap, Rape Gaze: Obscure Musical Genres Explained
http://www.laweekly.com/music/slutwave-tumblr-rap-rape-gaze-obscure-musical-genres-explained-2409158

Eminem and The Beatles: The Top-Selling Artists of the 2000s
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eminem-and-the-beatles-the-top-selling-artists-of-the-2000s-20091209

Google Ngram Viewer: on / in an island
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Episode 219: Eggcorns

Have you heard of eggcorns?

They’re off-quoted sayings that sometimes reel their ugly heads, and some might just leave you curled up in the feeble position.

Are they wrong? That might be a bit of a mute point. But can you tell the difference between an eggcorn and the real thing?

Linguist Daniel Midgley discusses them in one foul swoop on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Google Ngram Viewer: “There is plenty of, There are plenty of
There’s Three Variants: Paper presented at LSA 2015 by Bonnie Krejci and Katherine Hilton, Stanford University (PDF)

http://stanford.edu/~khilton/Krejci+Hilton_LSA_2015.pdf

To Find Meteorites, Listen to the Legends of Australian Aborigines
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/find-meteorites-listen-legends-australian-aborigines-180952941/?no-ist

Australian Aboriginal Stories of Ancient Sea-Level Rise Preserved for 13,000 Years
http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/linguistics/science-aboriginal-stories-australia-03272.html

Revealed: how Indigenous Australian storytelling accurately records sea level rises 7,000 years ago
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/sep/16/indigenous-australian-storytelling-records-sea-level-rises-over-millenia

Eggcorn: The Invented Word That Describes Invented Words
http://io9.com/eggcorn-the-invented-word-that-describes-invented-word-1629293915

This Is What ‘Eggcorns’ Are (and Why They’re Jar-Droppingly Good)
http://time.com/3902230/what-is-an-eggcorn/

Eggcorns? Here, here!
https://uwelingo.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/eggcorns-here-here/

‘Eggcorns’: The Gaffes That Spread Like Wildflowers
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/05/30/410504851/eggcorns-the-gaffes-that-spread-like-wildflowers

Google’s Ngram Viewer
https://books.google.com/ngrams

‘raucous’
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=raucous&allowed_in_frame=0

“A real tro*per”
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1867

trooper vs. trouper
http://grammarpartyblog.com/2012/10/03/trooper-vs-trouper/

“exasperating the situation”
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2010-September/102978.html

“firstable”
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/category/english/

“supposably”
http://www.grammarly.com/blog/2014/supposably-is-a-word-but-theres-a-99-chance-you-dont-know-how-to-use-it/

Which one swooped? Fowl, foul or fell? (Aside from the obvious.)
http://glenjplayer.com/2012/10/one-fowl-foul-fell-felon-swoop/

the “bud” of someone’s jokes
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/291/bud/

nip in the “butt”
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/135/butt/

coming down the “pike”
http://www.word-detective.com/2009/08/mondegreen-vs-eggcorn/

“buck” naked
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buck_naked#Etymology

Bu?? Naked
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001351.html

Butt To Buck, Start To Stark, Or Vice Versa?
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001959.html

Duc* tape
http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/duckvsduct.html

Hear, hear
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear

Is It Straitjacket Or Straightjacket?
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2013/02/is-it-straitjacket-or-straightjacket/

“straight” jacket is more common in books.

People emit a ‘germ cloud’ of bacteria as unique as a fingerprint, study finds
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11883473/People-emit-a-germ-cloud-of-bacteria-as-unique-as-a-fingerprint-study-finds.html

Congressman grabs pope’s water glass, takes a sip
http://www.kansascity.com/living/religion/article36805737.html

Science Has Bad News for Guys With Man Buns
http://mic.com/articles/125687/science-has-bad-news-for-guys-with-man-buns

Science says the glorified man bun is a dangerous trend
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/23/science-says-the-glorified-man-bun-is-a-dangerous-trend/21240055/

#FreeKaren: Australians mock anti-radicalisation booklet
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34355577

#freekaren: Govt’s school handout slammed for linking West Aust shark cull protest to radicalisation
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2015/s4319916.htm

Kevin Rudd: To the Good Burghers of Griffith
http://www.kevinruddmp.com/2013/11/to-good-burghers-of-griffith.html

burgher (n.)
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=burgher&allowed_in_frame=0

Etymology of borough, -burg, bourgeois, burglar
https://ewonago.wordpress.com/tag/origin-of-burgher/

Eggcorn: bi-election
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/529/bi-election/


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Episode 210: Listener Feedback

We get a lot of feedback from listeners.

So for this episode, we decided to answer questions, and settle some scores. We even ask the musical question: “How do you alphabetise your music collection?”

All on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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The Ladyslipper — a long-running catalogue for music by and for women (and everybody else).
https://www.ladyslipper.org

Feast Your Eyes on This Beautiful Linguistic Family Tree
http://mentalfloss.com/article/59665/feast-your-eyes-beautiful-linguistic-family-tree

The Wave Model of language change
https://prezi.com/_uvdnnm68kkl/wave-model-for-language-change/

What can you do with Linguistics?

Why are some words not allowed in Scrabble
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125676618

Offensive words omitted from the OSPD3
http://home.teleport.com/%7Estevena/scrabble/expurg.html


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Episode 191: Ape Accents

Do apes have accents?

A recent news story claims that chimps learn a “new language” when they move in with other chimps. What’s behind the story? And what exactly are our fellow primates capable of, language wise?

Linguist Daniel Midgley goes ape on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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One Man’s Quest to Rid Wikipedia of Exactly One Grammatical Mistake
https://medium.com/backchannel/meet-the-ultimate-wikignome-10508842caad

Why Wikipedia’s grammar vigilante is wrong
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/05/why-wikipedias-grammar-vigilante-is-wrong

Language Log: Can 50,000 Wikipedia edits be wrong?
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=17636

Language Log: More on the history of comprised of meaning “composed of”
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3182

Giraffedata’s manifesto is comprised entirely of misconceptions about how language works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Giraffedata/comprised_of#Wikipedia_policy

That’s So Gay: Google Fixes Gay Slurs
http://americanlivewire.com/2015-01-28-thats-gay-google-fixes-gay-slurs/

Google Translate MEAT GRINDER turns gay into ‘faggot’, ‘poof’, ‘queen’
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/28/google_gay_translation_fail/

Google Fixes Homophobic “Bug” in its Translator
http://www.dailytech.com/Google+Fixes+Homophobic+Bug+in+its+Translator/article37108c.htm

Etymology of <i>camp</i>
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=camp&allowed_in_frame=0

CBBC: “Chimps develop Scottish accents”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/31161049

ABC Science: “Chimps have own ‘dialects’ but can learn others”
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2015/02/06/4175466.htm?site=science&topic=latest

NBC: “Chimps Learn New Language When They Change Locale”
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/chimps-learn-new-language-when-they-change-locale-n300776

The actual paper
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(14)01635-2

Potent Social Learning and Conformity Shape a Wild Primate’s Foraging Decisions
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6131/483

Chimpanzee grunts mean more than you think
http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/6/7985327/chimpanzee-grunts-mean-more-than-you-think

LA Times: “Chimps learn each other’s grunts, but is it language?”
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-is-human-language-chimp-grunt-20150204-story.html

ABC Science: Chimps ‘talk’ about favourite fruits, best trees
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2015/01/20/4165321.htm

First example of whispering observed in non-human primates
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/first-example-of-whispering-observed-in-nonhuman-primates-8836601.html

Actual paper: Whisper-like behavior in a non-human primate
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/zoo.21099/abstract

Primate call gives clues to human speech origins
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22067192

Rare primate’s vocal lip-smacks share features of human speech
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-04/cp-rpv040313.php

Gelada lip smacks and wobbles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPtcNucxiMg

Terrible headline from ScienceAlert: “A wild-born orangutan has learned to communicate like a human”
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-wild-born-orangutan-has-learned-to-communicate-like-a-human

YouTube video of Tilda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6kiA3KCf5k

Orangutans Plan Their Trips Like Humans, Tell Others Their Future Travel Routes
http://www.ibtimes.com/orangutans-plan-their-trips-humans-tell-others-their-future-travel-routes-1404478

<i>Mansplain</i> chosen as Macquarie Dictionary’s 2014 word of the year
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-05/mansplain-macquarie-dictionary-2014-word-of-year/6073620

Here’s the Big List (PDF):
https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/media2/feature_documents/MacquarieWOTY_WordList_2014_2.pdf

“Linguists aren’t language nazis. We’re language hippies.”
http://www.slideshare.net/Jayelem/so-you-know-a-linguist

Ben Harris-Roxas ‏@ben_hr: This perfectly sums up the spill and the coverage of it for me
https://twitter.com/ben_hr/status/563580390942580736/photo/1


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Episode 180: Bad English (featuring Ammon Shea)

Are you annoyed by grammar purists?

Do prescriptive pedants pester you with trivial issues of usage?

What you need is some ammunition for fighting back. And it’s here, in the new book ‘Bad English: A History of Linguistic Aggravation’.

Linguist Daniel Midgley talks with author Ammon Shea on this episode of Talk the Talk.


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Linguists decry accent contest
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2014/10/04/Linguists-decry-accent-contest-n-at/stories/201410030201

What’s Wrong With “America’s Ugliest Accent”
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/10/02/america_s_ugliest_accent_what_s_wrong_with_gawker_s_tournament.html

Bad English: A History of Linguistic Aggravation by Ammon Shea
http://www.penguin.com.au/contributors/6040/ammon-shea

Ammon’s article in The Week
http://theweek.com/article/index/263113/a-brief-history-of-linguistic-aggravation

Ammon Shea’s website
http://www.ammon-shea.com

What is the ‘shirtfront’ Tony Abbott wants to give to Vladimir Putin?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-14/shirtfront-tony-abbott-vladimir-putin-g20/5811502

Russian official mocks Tony Abbott after threat to ‘shirt-front’ Vladimir Putin
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/russian-official-mocks-tony-abbott-after-threat-to-shirtfront-vladimir-putin-20141014-115pp0.html

buttonhole
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buttonhole

Buttonhole was originally buttonhold.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Buttonhole

“When fashion decreed that upper buttons be eliminated, button-holders didn’t suddenly reform. Instead they began grabbing people by the buttonholes (that) designers, for no good reason, left on the lapels and the phrase became to buttonhole.”
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/6/messages/68.html

The French have the same expression: Serrer le bouton de quelqu’un.
http://www.bartleby.com/81/2731.html


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‘Bad Kingdom’ by Moderat
from the album II

‘Take Off Your Shirt’ by Bibio
from the album Mind Bokeh

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